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REELING FILM FEST 2009 'American' woman Gwen Wynne
Special to the Online Edition of Windy City Times
by Andrew Davis
2009-11-04
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Gwen Wynne, Adam Pascal, Tate Donovan. Photo from Wynne

In the movie American Primitive—set in 1973—British widower father Harry Goodhart ( played by Tate Donovan ) moves his two daughters to Cape Cod, Mass., where his business partner, Mr. Gibbs ( played by Adam Pascal ) lives out back.

However, things are not quite what they seem—which come to a head when elder daugher Madeline ( on an outing with some high-school classmates ) sees her father and Gibbs at the Atlantic House gay dance club in the area of Provincetown.

Windy City Times talked with American Primitive co-writer/director Gwen Wynne about the film, which contains many elements from her own life.

Windy City Times: Tell me a little about your background.

Gwen Wynne: I started out as a theater director. My first job out of college was at Circle in the Square; I would look for new plays for the theatre, and it was at a really heady time for Broadway. I had an experience where Jelly's Last Jam was being performed in front of 10 people, and they brought in Gregory Hines to basically do a quasi-reading/dance piece. In the '80s, I was meeting these incredible performers.

Then I started my own theater company in Washington, D.C. I went there because it's a little easier to live; you can start a company on a smaller amount of money. I got a lot of support from the National Endowment of the Arts. So I did rap musicals and forgotten plays from Tennessee Williams [ as well as ] new plays.

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My mission has always been to do more socially conscious work; I think I was influenced by my professors at Brown [ University ] . It was at the tail end of the '70s when we were exposed to Marxist [ laughs ] thought—doing entertainment that makes a difference. I like to do things that help change minds.

WCT: The first thing I noticed in the film was this incredible cast—Tate Donovan, Adam Pascal, Stacey Dash and James B. Sikking, among others. Usually, with "smaller" films you don't see casts of this caliber. How were fortunate enough to get these people?

GWEN WYNNE: It took about two years to cast the film. I had a wonderful casting director, and my script was what inspired actors to want to be in the film. There was actually more to the script than what was filmed; there were also scenes that dealt with Harry's and Gibbs' friends, who were appalled that he went off with a married man with kids, and Gibbs confiding that the relationship wasn't working so well. There's was a lot more but I had to cut it because of budget [ constraints ] .

But, it was the script that the cast was drawn to. Actors aren't always worried about a first-time director, and I was able to convince them—or I think I did [ laughs ] —to trust me.

WCT: It must've been interesting doing the research and making sure you had all the details down.

GWEN WYNNE: Yes. Most of my design team were young adults at that time, so I actually made sure that the people in charge of the visuals had really lived that era. Of course, we also did a lot of research because you don't remember anything. [ Both laugh. ]

The other blessing, which was unexpected, was that when we were on Cape Cod we had access to troves of antiques from other eras, even before the '70s, that were in people's attics. So we were able to create this whole air of authenticity; it was beautiful. We completely redid the house; we furnished all of that. ... The art director and production designer are really talented.

WCT: What was it like filming the club scene?

GWEN WYNNE: I had been imagining that for years and years. I wanted to make it very Felliniesque. I used some dramatic license.

I was inspired by the Cockettes [ a legendary drag-queen troupe ] . Are you familiar with the Cockettes? [ WCT: Yes. ] It really was an amalgamation of doing research on underground clubs. I didn't want to do a cliched disco. Also, [ production designer ] John de Meo was a big influence on me; he had gone to these underground clubs. I wanted to create a place that was really wild.

WCT: Mission accomplished.

GWEN WYNNE: [ Laughs ] And I wanted to pay homage to what the Cockettes were doing and what was going on in San Francisco at the time as well as underground clubs on the East Coast. The underground clubs were also pretty multiracial. The dancers were great. It was a bit crazy—and exciting.

WCT: Your movie provides plenty of insight about how gays were viewed at that time. I remember that one of the daughters suggested cold-shower aversion therapy [ to help "cure" homosexuality ] .

GWEN WYNNE: Well, you were in a prison, basically. Harry was born in England, and you were put in prison for being homosexual, or you could be blackmailed. [ Homosexuality ] was also considered a mental disorder, and psychiatry had methods to "change" the person, like electroshock therapy. It's really sad that it was considered a mental disorder. It was in 1973 it was no longer considered a disorder.

WCT: Another interesting aspect was that the possibility of an interracial heterosexual romance [ between Donovan and Dash ] was broached. Was Cape Cod that enlightened about race but not homosexuality in 1973?

GWEN WYNNE: Aha! Well, it's interesting.

Cape Cod is a long strip of land shaped like an arm bent at the elbow. The tip of Cape Cod has become this gay mecca but it was a [ haven ] for artists. People who went there in the early 1900s were of all persuasions; you add Eugene O'Neill [ and ] Tennessee Williams. Historically, Provincetown was a place for pirates, and this is where the outlaws would congregate. Cape Cod was probably one of the more diverse regions in the country in the 19th century because the Underground Railroad went through it. Black people and American Indians lived on the cape.

I wanted to deal with class and race on the cape; Joy [ Dash's character ] is an educated woman who went to Smith and is a journalist. Even in [ the movie ] Jaws, the newspaper reporter there is Black—and that was shot in '73.

WCT: At the end of the film, it says, "In loving memory of Mr. Phipps and Dad."

GWEN WYNNE: Well, that's my dad—and Mr. Phipps was the inspiration for Mr. Gibbs. [ Note: Wynne's father and his partner, a maker of American primitive furniture named Fred Phipps, lived together in New Jersey after Wynne's mother passed away. ] So I created a story around what happened; I wanted to tell a story from a girl's point of view. So you could say that it's told from my point of view. Phipps died in 1984 and my father died in 2000.

WCT: What do you think your father would've thought of the film?

GWEN WYNNE: I've thought about that. I've had nightmares! [ Laughs ] I had this nightmare where I was getting my whole family ready to see the movie, and I was terrified. That's my nightmare.

My father never came out to his own parents, but my mother's parents figured it out and were very upset about it. That created a lot of conflict.

My dad was a deeply private person. I think he would've been proud at the end of the day, but I think it would be hard for him to interact with audiences after it was screened. In other words, he would stay anonymous. I think his friends would've really been supportive of the film and helped him get through it. [ Laughs ]

My father was an amazing writer; he was a cub reporter with Carl Bernstein. He wanted me to be a filmmaker. He gave me my first Super 8 [ camera ] .

WCT: What should viewers take away from this movie?

GWEN WYNNE: That's a great question. [ I'd like people to learn ] that you can have a normal family life with gay parents. Ultimately, the big debate [ in the movie ] is that children growing up in gay households are kinda weird. But you can definitely have a normal family life.

American Primitive will be shown at the Landmark's Century Centre Cinema, 2828 N. Clark, on Sunday, Nov. 8, at 7:30 p.m. See www.reelingfilmfestival.org .

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DVD REVIEW: Bam Bam and Celeste 2007-08-29
DVD REVIEW: small town gay bar 2007-08-29
Rick & Steve Out on DVD 2007-08-29
STARRLIGHT: Remembering Kent North 2007-08-29
Knight at the Movies: The Nanny Diaries, Them 2007-08-22
DVD REVIEW The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert: Frills Edition 2007-08-15
small town gay bar Out on DVD 2007-08-15
Lesbian Sex & Sexuality Out 2007-08-15
Knight at the Movies: Cut Sleeve Boys, Death at a Funeral 2007-08-15
Knight at the Movies: Stardust 2007-08-08
knight at the Movies: Becoming Jane,The Bourne Ultimatum 2007-08-01
Knight at the Movies: I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry, Into Great Silence 2007-07-25
Knight at the Movies: Hairspray, Film Notes 2007-07-18
Knight at the Movies: Chicago Outdoor Film Festival, Joshua 2007-07-11
DVD REVIEW 2007-07-04
Knight at the Movies:Transformers 2007-07-04
'Curl Girls' on Logo 2007-06-27
'Hairspray' CD Out in July 2007-06-27
To Your Health: A Talk with Sicko's Michael Moore 2007-06-27
'Evening' Stars: Talking with Michael Cunningham and Lajos Koltai 2007-06-27
Black Lesbian Movie to Film in Fall 2007-06-27
Knight at the Movies: Evening, Sicko 2007-06-27
Knight at the Movies: A Mighty Heart, Pierrepoint: The Last Hangman 2007-06-20
Knight at the Movies: Screened Out Series on TCM, Film Notes 2007-06-13
Knight Out at the Movies: ShowBusiness-The Road to Broadway, Ocean's Thirteen 2007-06-06
'07 Summer DVD Preview 2007-05-30
Three Years of Knight at the Movies 2007-05-30
DVD Review: Mr. Leather 2007-05-30
TLA Gets Naked Boys Movie 2007-05-30
Knight at the Movies: The Naked Civil Servant, The Lost Language of Cranes, Little Britain Live 2007-05-23
Knight at the Movies: Georgia Rule, Brand Upon the Brain! 2007-05-16
Knight at the Movies: Zoo, Waitress 2007-05-09
Knight at the Movies: Spider-Man 3-The Hawk Is Dying 2007-05-02
Rusty Schwimmer: A True Character 2007-05-02
Knight at the Movies Book 2007-04-25
Lesbian Military Feature Out on DVD 2007-04-25
Knight at the Movies: The TV Set-Not Just the Best of the Larry Sanders Show DVD Set 2007-04-25
Knight at the Movies: The Year of the Dog-Hot Fuzz 2007-04-18
Knight at the Movies: Disturbia-Perfect Stranger-Another Sky DVD 2007-04-11
Chicago Filmmakers' Announces Spring Screenings 2007-04-04
Piper Perabo: 'Snow' Queen 2007-04-04
Knight at the Movies: Blades of Glory-The Hoax-Boy Culture-First Snow 2007-04-04
Boy Culture: X Marks the Spot 2007-03-28
Knight at the Movies: Meet the Robinsons-The Lookout-The Page Turner-Freeheld 2007-03-28
Knight at the Movies: Color Me Kubrick-Maxed Out-Barbara Stanwyck Centennial 2007-03-21
Controversial Film Out on DVD 2007-03-14
Knight at the Movies: 300, Life Support, Shortbus DVD 2007-03-14
Knight at the Movies: Gray Matters and Zodiac 2007-03-07
Alan Cumming: Shades of 'Gray' 2007-03-07
Queer film festival 2007-02-28
Mad About Madsen 2007-02-28
Knight at the Movies: Alexander Revisited and A Comedy of Power 2007-02-28
Knight at the Movies: The Astronaut Farmer, The Number 23 and Reno 911: Miami 2007-02-21
Knight at the Movies: Music and Lyrics, Bridge to Terabithia 2007-02-14
Talking with Lt. Jim Dangle 2007-02-14
Gay Film to Screen at Facets on V-Day 2007-02-07
Knight at the Movies: The Dead Girl, Puccini for Beginners 2007-02-07
NU Grad Preparing Directorial Debut 2007-02-07
Knight at the Movies: Backstage,The Departed 2007-01-31
DVD REVIEW: Broken Sky 2007-01-31
Knight at the Movies: Inland Empire, DVD Releases 2007-01-24
Rupert Everett: Skins' Game 2007-01-24
Knight at the Movies: Venus 2007-01-17
Knight at the Movies: Wrestling with Angels 2007-01-10
Knight at the Movies: Perfume: The Story 2007-01-03
Knight at the Movies: Dreamgirls 2006-12-27
Knight at the Movies: The 10 Best GLBT Movies of 2006 2006-12-27
Knight at the Movies: The Good Shepherd and The Good German 2006-12-20
Knight at the Movies 2006-12-13
Knight at the Movies: The Holiday, Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds and History Boys 2006-12-06
Knight at the Movies: 3 Needles, Altman 2006-11-29
Knight at the Movies: The Fountain and Jonestown 2006-11-22
Knight at the Movies: Volver and For Your Consideration 2006-11-15
Knight at the Movies: Stranger Than Fiction and Copying Beethoven 2006-11-08
Knight at the Movies: Babel and Deliver Us From Evil 2006-11-01
Knight at the Movies: Running With Scissors and The Prestige 2006-10-25
Knight at the Movies: Shortbus 2006-10-18
Knight at the Movies: The Queen, The Last King of Scotland and Infamous 2006-10-11
Knight at the Movies: Chicago International Film Festival Preview 2006-10-04
Knight at the Movies: School for Scoundrels and The Puffy Chair 2006-09-27
Knight at the Movies: The Black Dahlia 2006-09-20
Knight at the Movies: This Film Is Not Yet Rated and When the Levees Broke 2006-09-13
Knight at the Movies: All About My Mother, Queens, Time to Leave 2006-09-06
Knight at the Movies: The Quiet and Viva Pedro! (Almodóvar Film Fest at the Music Box) 2006-08-30
Knight at the Movies: Gay TV on DVD 2006-08-23
Controversial Actor/AIDS Activist to Direct Play at Bailiwick 2006-08-16
Knight at the Movies: The Illusionist, World Trade Center, The Great New Wonderful and Snakes on a Plane 2006-08-16
Knight at the Movies: Quinceañera and Another Gay Movie 2006-08-09
Knight at the Movies: The Night Listener and Brothers of the Head 2006-08-02
Knight at the Movies: Two Drifters and Lady in the Water 2006-07-19
Knight at the Movies: Reeling Summer Film Festival Plus Ethan Green Film 2006-07-12
Knight at the Movies: Pirates and Strangers with Candy 2006-07-05
Deep Inside Hollywood 2006-06-28
Knight at the Movies: The Devil Wears Prada/Superman Returns 2006-06-28
Knight at the Movies: Valley of the Dolls, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls and Other Gay Camp Classic DVD Releases 2006-06-21
Knight at the Movies: The Heart of the Game and Daniel Wong 2006-06-14
Knight at the Movies: A Prairie Home Companion, The Omen, Psychopathia Sexualis, and The First Annual GLBT Pride Movie Survey 2006-06-07
Knight at the Movies: Charles Busch Q&A 2006-05-31
Knight at the Movies: The Da Vinci Code and Shadow of a Doubt 2006-05-24
Knight at the Movies: The Sisters 2006-05-17
Knight at the Movies: Hate Crime, Poseidon 2006-05-10
Knight at the Movies: Q&A with The Family Stone actor Ty Giordano and Mrs. Palfrey ... 2006-05-03
Knight at the Movies: United 93 and Akeelah and the Bee 2006-04-26
Knight at the Movies: Kinky Boots and Spring GLBT DVD Releases 2006-04-19
Knight at the Movies: The Beauty Academy of Kabul 2006-04-12
Knight at the Movies: Friends with Money and Take the Lead 2006-04-05
Knight at the Movies: Adam & Steve 2006-03-29
Knight at the Movies: Summer Storm and Thank You for Smoking 2006-03-22
Knight at the Movies: V for Vendetta and The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things 2006-03-15
Knight at the Movies: Failure to Launch and Same Sex America 2006-03-08
Knight at the Movies: The Year of the Gay Oscars 2006-03-01
Knight at the Movies: Before the Fall 2006-02-22
Knight at the Movies: Winter 2006 DVD Roundup 2006-02-15
Knight at the Movies: The Cary Grant Box Set and Firewall 2006-02-08
LGBT Movies Get Oscar Nods and More Awards 2006-02-01
Knight at the Movies: Imagine Me & You and Three of Hearts 2006-02-01
Knight at the Movies: Gay Sex in the 70s and 24 Hours On Craigslist 2006-01-25
Knight at the Movies: The New World and End of the Spear 2006-01-18
Knight at the Movies: Mrs. Henderson Presents and Glory Road 2006-01-11
Knight at the Movies: The 10 Best GLBT Movies of 2005 2006-01-04
Knight at the Movies: Munich, Rumor Has It 2005-12-28
Knight at the Movies: Transamerica and Breakfast on Pluto 2005-12-21
Knight at the Movies: Brokeback Mountain and The Producers 2005-12-14
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2005-12-07
Knight at the Movies: The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and In Cold Blood 2005-12-07
Knight at the Movies: Aeon Flux and Holiday DVD Ideas 2005-11-30
Knight at the Movies: Rent and Dorian Blues 2005-11-23
Knight at the Movies: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and Mary Poppins Sing-a-Long 2005-11-16
Knight at the Movies: Bee Season and Gay Sex in the '70s 2005-11-09
Knight at the Movies: The Dying Gaul, Jarhead 2005-11-02
Knight at the Movies: The Weather Man and Shopgirl 2005-10-26
Knight at the Movies 2005-10-19
Knight at the Movies: Domino and Be With Me, a Chicago Film Fest screening of note 2005-10-12
2005 Chicago Film Festival GLBT Movies 2005-10-05
Knight at the Movies 2005-10-05
Knight at the Movies 2005-09-28
Knight at the Movies: Hellbent and Corpse Bride 2005-09-21
Knight at the Movies: Cote D'Azur-Garçon Stupide and Just Like Heaven 2005-09-14
Bosnia gay film is a hit 2005-09-14
Knight at the Movies 2005-09-07
Knight at the Movies: El Crimen Perfecto, 2046, and The Cave 2005-08-31
Knight at the Movies: The Brothers Grimm and Cronicas 2005-08-24
Knight at the Movies: Tropical Malady, Asylum 2005-08-17
Knight at the Movies: Donkey Skin, Immortel 2005-08-10
Knight at the Movies 2005-08-03
Knight at the Movies: Twist of Faith and Summer Film Fests 2005-07-27
Knight at the Movies: The Island, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Stolen Childhoods 2005-07-20
Knight at the Movies:Happy Endings and local film notes 2005-07-13
Knight at the Movies: Yes and War of the Worlds 2005-07-06
Knight at the Movies: Land of the Dead and Herbie Fully Loaded 2005-06-29
Knight at the Movies: Heights, Bewitched 2005-06-22
Knight at the Movies: DVD 'Best Of' Round Up 2005-06-15
Knight at the Movies: My Summer of Love 2005-06-15
Knight at the Movies: Saving Face and The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2005-06-08
Knight at the Movies: Mysterious Skin and The Nomi Song 2005-06-01
Knight at the Movies 2005-05-25
Knight at the Movies: Star Wars III-Revenge of the Sith 2005-05-18
Knight at the Movies: Monster-in-Law and Ladies in Lavender 2005-05-11
Knight at the Movies: Jiminy Glick In La La Wood and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 2005-05-04
Knight at the Movies: Beautiful Boxer and Palindromes 2005-04-27
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2005-04-20
Knight at the Movies: Eating Out and The Game of Their Lives 2005-04-20
Knight at theMovies 2005-04-13
Knight at the Movies 2005-04-06
Knight at the Movies: Sin City, Miss Congeniality 2, Dyke Delicious 2005-03-30
Knight at the Movies: D.E.B.S. and The Ring Two 2005-03-23
Knight at the Movies 2005-03-16
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2005-03-09
Knight at the Movies: You I Love and Be Cool 2005-03-09
Knight at the Movies: The Jacket and The Pacifier 2005-03-02
Knight at the Movies: 2005 Oscar Predictions 2005-02-23
Knight at the Movies 2005-02-16
Knight at the Movies: Inside Deep Throat and Nina Simone, Love Sorceress 2005-02-09
Knight at at the Movies 2005-02-02
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2005-01-26
Knight at the Movies: In the Realms of the Unreal and Superstar In A Housedress 2005-01-19
Knight at the Movies 2005-01-12
Knight at the Movies: 2004's Best Movies and Straight-Jacket 2005-01-05
Knight at the Movies: The Aviator and Beyond the Sea 2004-12-29
Knight at the Movies: Phantom of the Opera and Meet the Fockers 2004-12-22
Knight at the Movies: Million Dollar Baby and Saints and Sinners 2004-12-15
Knight at the Movies: Brother to Brother and Holiday Movies 2004 2004-12-08
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2004-12-08
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2004-12-01
Knight at the Movies: Bear Cub 2004-12-01
Knight at the Movies: Alexander, Testosterone and Callas Forever 2004-11-24
Knight at the Movies: Kinsey and Finding Neverland 2004-11-17
Knight at the Movies: The Polar Express, The Incredibles, Animal Farm DVD/Cowboys & Angels 2004-11-10
Knight at the Movies: Adored: Diary of a Porn Star DVD and Ray 2004-11-03
Knight at HOME at the Movies 2004-10-27
Knight at the Movies: Stage Beauty, My Mother Likes Women, and Saved! DVD 2004-10-27
Knight at the Movies: Shall We Dance? and Proteus 2004-10-20
Knight at the Movies: Tarnation and I Heart Huckabees 2004-10-13
Knight at the Movies: Ladder 49 and Head in the Clouds 2004-10-06
Knight at the Movies: Tying The Knot and A Dirty Shame 2004-09-29
Knight at the Movies: Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow and Latter Days (DVD) 2004-09-22
Knight at the Movies: Broadway-The Golden Age and Resident Evil-Apocalypse 2004-09-15
Knight at the Movies: Bright Young Things and Wicker Park 2004-09-08
Knight at the Movies: Vanity Fair and Suspect Zero 2004-09-01
Knight at the Movies: Without A Paddle 2004-08-25
Knight at the Movies: Princess Diaries 2-Royal Engagement and Princess Diaries Special Edition DVD; Alien vs. Predator 2004-08-18
Knight at the Movies: Touch of Pink & Collateral 2004-08-11
Knight at the Movies: She Hate Me and The Village 2004-08-04
Knight at the Movies: A Home At The End Of The World 2004-07-28
Knight at Movies: The Corporation and Cinderella Story and Showgirls DVD 2004-07-21
Knight at the Movies: Singin' In The Rain 2004-07-14
Knight at the Movies: De-Lovely 2004-07-07
Knight at the Movies: Fahrenheit 9/11 2004-06-30
Knight at the Movies, The Terminal and Dodgeball 2004-06-23
Knight at the Movies: Celebrating Gay Pride 2004-06-23
Knight at the Movies: Celebrating Gay Pride at the Movies 2004-06-16
Knight at the Movies: The Stepford Wives & The Chronicles of Riddick 2004-06-16
Knight at the Movies: Harry Potter and the Boarding School Genre 2004-06-09
Theater: Plays About the Makings of Movies 2004-06-02
Knight at the Movies: Saved! 2004-06-02
Knight at the Movies: Reinventing The Movies 2004-05-26
Movie Maven 2004-03-10
Movie Maven 2003-12-31
Holiday Movie Scene 2003-12-01
Deep Inside Hollywood 2003-11-19
Deep Inside Hollywood 2003-11-12
Movie Maven 2003-06-04
Movie Maven 2003-05-07
Ignite: GLBTQ youth news 2003-02-26
Movie Maven 2001-05-23
Gay Films Score Big at Sundance Filmfest 2001-02-07
Artist with a Mission: A Conversation with Sapphire 1996-08-30






 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

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